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Re: Sugguestion that may make sense!!!
By Father Nightroad. 08/08/10, 02:34 am |
| @Duckeh: I do fully understand... I was merely underlining this to the previous poster who made the remarks that I was causing trouble. While I don't know if I am in ayway seen as a friend here on cnz I do at least try to be friendly to all |
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| Re: Sugguestion that may make sense!!!
By Kitten Slave. 08/08/10, 08:00 am |
| Be calm people. This thread is turning into the "drama" it was supposed to be against. It is in many ways, a forum for teens, so it is relatively appropriate that it be governed by them. Besides, god knows I am frivolous, petulant, and can act half my age sometimes.
By older folk, who do you think should take the role? What sort of "leadership" do you feel is required? As has been said, the current mods are on the upper end of the age bracket here...
I suspect that having an "older" mod is really just a symptom of another feeling that you are having, perhaps you think that the forum might benefit from having an older influence, or "adult" organization (which is honestly, far worse than you find on CNZ)?
In a way, it might be a nice idea, but ultimately, it wouldnt really change anything adding a new "older" mod - they would just become a token mod...
You know what they say, if it aint broke, dont fix it.
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| Re: Sugguestion that may make sense!!!
By Guest. 08/08/10, 08:29 am |
| I'm rather confused. All I want to say is maybe you should meet all the mods IRL before like, judging their maturity and how they handle stuff.
//Still remembers first meeting Duckeh Touch my knee
Also, am I the only one who wants to hear from Tippo? I keep seeing his name being thrown around but he's hasn't said anything. |
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| Re: Sugguestion that may make sense!!!
By TinTango. 08/08/10, 08:50 am |
| It aint broke. I like CNZ... back when I was looking to join an online forum to join, and checked out the "Adult" Star Wars and Halo groups, I noted they weren't all that welcoming. The whole... "don't post unless you've read every post in the archive, and made sure your question hasn't already been covered" thing, really annoyed me. Fellow noobs like myself were being shut down, and not politely, simply for not knowing where to look for info... which is actually part of being a noob. At least here, you get a good welcoming thread response, and if you made a mistake, the mods would tell you in a lolsy, not too offensive way first and point you in the right direction. At least, unless you made the same mistake over and over. Then you get Modhammered. I may understand some of what you're saying. Older people in general, tend to tolerate less BS than younger ones. That comes from life experience, knowing what you're about, and generally what you want in life. So your capacity to let BS slide, is far diminished, compared to a teenager, who perhaps is more interested in how they're perceived within a social setting, and doesn't want to stand out as being the meanie. However, I think our Mods are doing a great job maintaining a balance between (1) Being our friends- (especially as they organise most of the big meetups, and actually meet us in real life) and (2) Enforcing the law on the forums. It's a fine line between the two, and I think they do extraordinarily well, given their individual work/school/commitment circumstances. I think if Adultish Mods were chosen, solely on their ability to perform (2), then CNZ would cease to be, the fun, welcoming forum that it is now, and would revert to the "Adult" type forums I described at the beginning. So, no... I don't think we need more adult/older mods- that would change the fundamental culture of this cosplay community (i.e. it's about having fun! and learning from each other). I just think we need to grow as a community... together, and appreciate those that make the commitment to being mods. |
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| Re: Sugguestion that may make sense!!!
By Mischa. 08/08/10, 09:37 am |
| | I wish we still had the green karma button ^ |
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| Re: Sugguestion that may make sense!!!
By Guest. 08/08/10, 10:03 am |
| | I am sorry if theirs been offencive comments from us. What I was saying to Father Nightroad was maybe a adult part of the froum so that we can talk more about adult stuff and less of the drama that happens. If we were being rude I am sorry and it wasn't meant to hurt anyone. |
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| Re: Sugguestion that may make sense!!!
By Guest. 08/08/10, 10:32 am |
| | ^But that's completely different to what we are talking about there >__> |
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| Re: Sugguestion that may make sense!!!
By JVCA. 08/08/10, 10:33 am |
| But see, THAT is something completely different from what you're asking.
The OP asked for 'older moderators'.
Now you've just asked for 'an R18 forum in which we can discuss things without the younger members'.
The answer to that is a resounding no.
It has been asked for before, and we have declined? Why?
a) These are youth-oriented forums. An adult's only forum is counter to what we are. b) These are forums about cosplay, not about meet-ups. We do have meet-up sections, but these are designed for cosplay meet-ups for any age. If someone has been abusing that, please report it. c) Exclusion and discrimination is a form of bullying; and that's what ageism is. An R18 forum would exclude a vast amount of this forum's population. d) What goes on at meet-ups is not our concern. e) People will assume 'R18 means we can ignore the PG13 and the swearing rules because those are for kids!'. This will never be allowed - it's part of what makes CNZ such a nice place compared to other forums.
So again, I tell you no, but I do give you a suggestion of my own: Use Facebook. Facebook is designed for social networking (forums are NOT), and you're talking about Social Networking, not Cosplay.
Go on Facebook, make an invite only group, and invite everyone you want to join. Groups have a discussion function which works very similarly to how forums do - so you can have your R18 conversations there - and Groups can also organise events which will send an automatic invitation to every group member.
The only thing I insist is this: you cannot use CNZ in the name of the group, as we do not want this forum associated with an R18 group, and the two are seperate entities anyway.
I do appreciate that you're only trying to help, and I thank you for that; but what you're suggesting would take away from what CNZ is supposed to be, rather than adding to it. _________________
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| Re: Sugguestion that may make sense!!!
By Kitten Slave. 08/08/10, 11:14 am |
| Aaah, ok, that makes a whole lot more sense as to what you were asking for. But cheah, like JVCA said, it is something that has been brought up before.
At the end of the day, you must question, just how many ppl would end up in this "adult" section anyway? And what would we actually talk about that is different from what we discuss on the forum normally?
I feel a little bit like we are ganging up on two people here...

Anyhoo, yeah, I think with this kind of stuff, it is better to talk directly with one of the mods first before posting anything. Also, think about what it is before you post, like I have said before, what is the point, what do you wish to achieve, and will it achieve that goal, all that stuff.
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| Re: Sugguestion that may make sense!!!
By Tamoo. 08/08/10, 11:18 am |
| JVCA, my love. I would ask you to marry me but that would be considered incestual. I LOVE YOU, MOTHER. You summed everything up so nicely.
And with this, I hope everything is clear. Please, no more posting after this message unless it is actually contributory.
I'm really tempted to lock this thread. _________________
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| Re: Sugguestion that may make sense!!!
By jpwise. 08/08/10, 11:20 am |
| Edit: lol, take too long to write a post and you get 3 more people reply.. lol ---
Sounds like things were busy last night while i wasn't on.
Just catching up on things aswell, I'd like to fall back on a few key points. (sorry - my definition of key can be a bit wordy at times). This is aimed at all members, not just those that have posted in the thread.
Spoiler tagged since JVCA covered a number of them aswell.
| Spoiler: | | | 1) As others have stated age does not equal maturity. 2) ALOT of mod work goes on in the background that the members never see or hear about. The rules being policed, offensive posts removed, double posters corrected, and attempting to deal with trolls (the kind that have 15+ accounts and spam the hell out of the forum). ISP's and other agencies contacted dealing with said trolls, and so on. Because most of you aren't aware of it is probably part of the indication that we're generally doing a good job of it. 3) An R18 section has been discussed in the past by the mods, but part of the problem is this is the internet, there's no way of enforcing the age someone puts in a profile. If someone says they're 18, and you then find out they're actually 13, do you ban them from that section of the forum, or ask for ID to let them in, excluding everyone else? It becomes more trouble than it's worth to administer. 4) Deleting rants - was discussed very seriously after the Karma system was disabled a little while back. The back history about why Karma was disabled should still be in the forums, but essentially it has been abused several times in the past and the decision to disable it for the better of the forum was made. Deleting rants was also discussed, but there is a feeling that the rants section still serves a purpose for people to get things off their chest, and as the thread details say it doesn't necessarily mean the problem will be fixed, but you may feel better. :)
The mods as a whole are open to suggestions for improvement to the forum where we can, and yes our ages do range quite a bit (as do our members ranges). As you've no doubt noted our members can be quite passionate about the forums (sometimes to excessiveness), but the mods will try to keep discussions from deteriorating. |
If someone has an issue to raise directly with the mods you can PM the 'Madmins' group - this goes to all the admin mods. If there is an issue with a particular post (crude, offensive, double post, breaks rules, etc), you can click the 'Report Post to Moderator/Admin', and the mods will be notified so we can address the issue - and provided work/life doesn't get in the way, one of us will come on to look into it. Otherwise if it's a general suggestion or forum issue (ie; Spoiler tags not working - again), then this is the place to raise it.
Um. yeah. I think that about sums it up. :) _________________ SPCC - Helping Promote Cosplay Since 2009 - www.cosplay.org.nz & here SPCC Wiki - Need Cosplay Supplies, Know where to get them? - help update our Wiki! 2010 Cosplay Calendar - On Sale Now - Look Here! - Now only $10 $5 Wellygeddon 2011 Photos |
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| Re: Sugguestion that may make sense!!!
By Kitten Slave. 08/08/10, 11:27 am |
| | Lock it Tammykins. |
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| Re: Sugguestion that may make sense!!!
By Tamoo. 08/08/10, 11:29 am |
| I shall comply. _________________
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