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Re: Quick question about the forums
By Blooberry. 14/07/10, 12:17 am |
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Re: Quick question about the forums
By Deathscythe Hell. 14/07/10, 12:20 am |
| | Its a vaild questions/sujestion the point has already been proven,something about it should be added to the rules with the way people have reacted to it. |
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Re: Quick question about the forums
By Guest. 14/07/10, 12:28 am |
| | I don't know how you thought you could start a thread about it without causing drama. If you honestly just wanted to bring it up and suggest a rule change to the mods, they have PM buttons. That's what they're there for. |
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Re: Quick question about the forums
By CheiraLeena. 14/07/10, 12:31 am |
| | Deathscythe Hell wrote: | OMFG im trying to do this place a favor by pointing something out which could potientialy cause alot of problems at some point and giving a fix.
Also this forum has a genral discussion forum yes?so no its not just about cosplay theres discussion on stuff that has nothing to do with cosplay. |
| u_ne_korn wrote: | Scroll right up to the top of the page? Whats it say up there?
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Re: Quick question about the forums
By CamusCanDo. 14/07/10, 12:33 am |
| Right off the bat, this seems like a question that could've easily have been asked through PM to a mod/admin. May I talk about political/religious issues in an intellegent discussion. If not, why and also why was it overlooked in the posting rules? I don't need to know about your political/religious stance, or lack thereof, in a thead about posting rules. I would also take a second and think what these posts would entail.
| Deathscythe Hell wrote: | lol the thing with if i was to discusse religon people would not like what i would say,although it is all facts which to my understanding is why 90%+ forums ban discussion on it...because people who are religous take offence to the facts.
Also with politcal discussion it can real get out of hand,e.g i hate green peace and can proved vaild reasons to why i think they suck.people will get pissed off at it.Theyre both sesitive topics that can easily offend... |
As a side note people genrally don't take well to someone spouting off facts because that is not an open ended conversation but rather a close-ended conversation with no feasible outcome that both parties are going to find common ground on or respect each others opinions. In summary I don't see why political/religious threads shouldn't be allowed, but only if they are discussed in a civil and intellegent manner. If this doesn't work out then lock/delete the thread and give a warning to the persons involved that caused the unrest. We shouldn't disallow a thread topic just because of the few bad eggs you may get. We also might get something very intersting and worth reading. |
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Re: Quick question about the forums
By Deathscythe Hell. 14/07/10, 12:45 am |
| I have no idea who the mods are,other wise thats what would have been done.
this theard proved the point that it should be banned.Look at the way people reacted,with offence to something that wasnt ment to be offencive and using a diffrent point of view through examples.
Also @CamusCanDo whats a world with out facts?Whats the point of talking when people dont listen to facts?retorical questions you dont need to anwser btw. Also theres good reason as to why religous and political discussions should not be aloud,because people of diffrent points of views take offence to oppisite points of view and can result in large amounts of conflict just look at ireland.You can say were more "civil" and "mature" then them but someone will always take offence to this kind of discussion in one way or another.
Also i never set out to offend anyone because if that was my intention i would have taken a hugely diffrent aproch and flamed alot of diffrent religons/political views from the begining. |
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Re: Quick question about the forums
By Icarus. 14/07/10, 12:59 am |
| you're right, some people will take offence when it comes to these topics. But thats the thing about computers. When you don't click on certain links, the whole thing is avoided, isn't that wonderful? 
and I get the feeling that, though you're trying to make that point of possible trouble occurring with that topic out of good intentions, perhaps it's the way you're saying it that feels like you're trying to start a flame war.
I'm sure the mods have been very careful and thoughtful with creating the rules, as many has mentioned, all the users are quite happy with this forum being very free in their convo topics~ and if trouble does happen, ours wonderful mods will do what they need to~~ after all, nothing bad has happened purely because a rule of forbidding political/religious view, y/y? |
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Re: Quick question about the forums
By Guest. 14/07/10, 09:24 am |
| | Here here Icarus! |
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Re: Quick question about the forums
By Deathscythe Hell. 14/07/10, 12:08 pm |
| | Icarus wrote: | you're right, some people will take offence when it comes to these topics. But thats the thing about computers. When you don't click on certain links, the whole thing is avoided, isn't that wonderful? 
and I get the feeling that, though you're trying to make that point of possible trouble occurring with that topic out of good intentions, perhaps it's the way you're saying it that feels like you're trying to start a flame war.
I'm sure the mods have been very careful and thoughtful with creating the rules, as many has mentioned, all the users are quite happy with this forum being very free in their convo topics~ and if trouble does happen, ours wonderful mods will do what they need to~~ after all, nothing bad has happened purely because a rule of forbidding political/religious view, y/y? |
yes but the internet is filled with stupid,im gonna use youtube as an example people who dislike a band go on a video for them and post crap all over it and start a flame war. yeah your right i guess,i probley didnt use the best examples. Although rules are use to provent this stuff from happening in the 1st place... |
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Re: Quick question about the forums
By Cactiberry. 14/07/10, 12:15 pm |
| I think the rule doesn't exist because it doesn't _NEED_ to exist. We're a community that relies on each other, most of the time, and it's all too easy to compare us to one big, mismatched family - there's been drama in the past, and we've LEARNED from it. Even considering the age range here (Speaking from one of the absolute ends of the spectrum) if a debate was started, I think we're all intelligent enough to keep in civil :/ Banning something that hasn't even come up in a negative aspect, even as just a cautionary thing, is fairly useless in terms of a rule. |
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Re: Quick question about the forums
By Deathscythe Hell. 14/07/10, 12:25 pm |
| This sort of discussion can go from civil to flame war very quick tho.ive seen it before on other sites that havent banned discussion on it.
But if you guys dont think it should be whatevz im bearly on here so i guess it doesnt matter to much to me.Just wanted to proved help to stop some trouble that could potenitaly happen due to there not being any rules on it. |
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Re: Quick question about the forums
By JVCA. 14/07/10, 12:32 pm |
| Jeez, this thread is ridiculous. Here's the official mod response, and I'm locking this thread because it is all just a bunch of SILLYBZNS.
TL;DR: We allow discussion, not arguement here. You wanna discuss a delicate subject? Totes fine so long as you are mature about it and it doesn't breach the PG-13 rule. It is NOT acceptable to make confrontational posts (of which I see one or two here from all parties B|) because THAT is what turns a thread from a discussion to an arguement.
Discussions are interesting and widen people's fields of view, but arguements are petty and timewasting.
As such, we mod on a thread-by-thread basis. We identify threads that have the potential to get out of hand and watch them like hawks. If someone overreacts or takes offense, depending on the scale of the dramu we either delete the posts that made the thread go downhill (for example, in this one I'd be eeleting Pseudonym's post for it's accusatory tone. We call this purging) or if the thread is not salvagable, we confiscate it to a hidden forum to keep as evidence.
Either way, we issue warnings to those who made the thread go sour. You may have noticed there's no rule against political/religious discussion, but there IS a rule against making comments designed to start an arguement, and we use that heavily in dramu. We also have a rule against making hateful comments which often is violated in dramu.
Basically -
"I physics hate Greenpeace, they're all a punch of pothead wankers!" = NOT okay
"I dislike Greenpeace for their affinity with marijuana legalisation and the impact they have on commercial entities when they try to inflict their ideals on other people." = awesome.
The first is someone being a whiny little smarmy wrench who's out to offend people. The latter createsthe start of an interesting discussion.
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I hope this makes sense - I just woke up. Anyone with queries can PM a mod; I'm locking this topic. _________________
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Re: Quick question about the forums
By jpwise. 14/07/10, 12:33 pm |
| *snap* beaten to the mod reply by JVCA. But there you go.
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As a general rule of thumb 'reasoned debate' is welcome when it's in the right section of the forum. By reasoned debate I mean a reasoned discussion that doesn't deteriorate into antagonistic comments against people, their beliefs, or their faiths. If you don't agree with someone that is entirely your opinion, and doesn't invalidate the other persons views in the least. If you attack them personally for no other reason than their views differ to your own, and it deteriorates, the mods can, and will step in. Your comments about "Also alot of people dont like to hear the facts saying what they belive in is a lie..." are the type of comments we do not like to see. You are welcome to correct someone if they are in error by giving a reason "ie: I don't believe that's correct because of xyz" and site a source if available. Simply saying "you're wrong and an idiot if you believe that" will see the mods step in and issue a warning. Once you use up your warnings, you're banned. That's it, no coming back.
Religion and Politics are powder keg type topics, and any thread on them will be heavily monitored. But as an example the sex thread has been running for some time without issue, and people have kept their noses in line and actually had a reasonable (and quite educational in most cases) discussion on the topic of sex, without it deteriorating into a cesspit.
Hope that answers your question, and if you can also please try to refrain from similar comments to the one I quoted above.
Thanks. Jp - part of the Mod Team. |
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